A 2nd Amendment Argument with Cops, and What to Do on Valentine's Day
Posted 2/13/2013 3:00:00 PM

Here's a video we want your comments on. A 2nd Amendment fan in Missouri tussles with the cops.

What do YOU think of the video? Leave your comments below.

It was the gulp heard ‘round the world.

Florida SENATOR MARCO RUBIO delivered the Republican response to Obama's State of the Union address last night. It lasted about 15 minutes, and apparently all the talking left his mouth a little dry.

Because in the middle, he leaned off camera to take a very hurried and very AWKWARD drink of water. Naturally, the video immediately blew up online.

Tomorrow is Valentine's Day:

. . . So that means you've still got 23 hours, fellas, to get down to the convenience store and get her a card and that tire pressure gauge she's always wanted.

. . . It's the one day a year that men can completely fall short of their ladies' expectations. Kidding! We do that every day.

If you’re looking for a cool date night, one of the greatest films of all time, CASABLANCA, will have a one night only screening VALENTINE’S DAY at 7pm, at the B&B Wildwood 10. Tickets are only $5.

If you want to celebrate with a more recent film you could choose Alcon Entertainment’s supernatural love story “Beautiful Creatures.”

Today, in select cities nationwide, Warner Bros. Pictures will distribute heart-shaped boxes of light and dark chocolates to lucky fans. “Beautiful Creatures” confections can be claimed locally at St. Louis’s Chesterfield Mall (291 Chesterfield Mall, St. Louis, MO 63017) between the hours of 5pm – 7pm by seeking out someone wearing a “Beautiful Creatures” shirt and pronouncing, “I want to be Claimed.”

THAT’S NOT CREEPY AT ALL!

Oscar® nominee Richard LaGravenese (“The Fisher King) directs the supernatural love story from his adaptation of the first novel in the best-selling series by Kami Garcia and Margaret Stohl. “Beautiful Creatures” stars Alden Ehrenreich, Alice Englert (“Ginger & Rosa”), Academy Award® winner Jeremy Irons, Oscar® nominee Viola Davis, Emmy Rossum, and Academy Award® winner Emma Thompson (“Howard’s End,” “Sense and Sensibility”).

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  1. Josh Cain posted on 02/13/2013 04:23 PM
    This individual KNOWS his rights, & it sounds strange to you because YOU do NOT know your rights.... Your Miranda right say, "ANYTHING you say, can & WILL be used against you." NEVER, NEVER talk to police... You ONLY end up incriminating yourself.
  2. J Foley posted on 02/13/2013 04:38 PM
    This situation is analogous to the teacher who got in trouble for using the word niggardly in its proper context.

    The word niggardly means cheap and the word was used in literature long before the word nigger was ever used.

    The teacher was accused of racism because the students and administration apparently thought the root of the word had something to do with the word nigger. In other words, they were so ignorant that they thought the teacher was being racist.

    These cops apparently were ignorant of the law. The cops should have advised the complainants that the guy was doing nothing illegal.

    The guy in question actually called in to Jamie’s show right before 0900 so they couldn’t really flesh out the situation from his perspective, but he is scheduled to call in tomorrow am.

    I watched the entire video, it appeared to me that the guy was very matter of fact, but not disrespectful or confrontational at all. If anyone was out of line it was the cop who called the guy an asshole.

    Why does the guy have to prove that he’s not breaking the law if the law permits open carry. If he had brandished the weapon of done anything threatening it would be a different story.

    Dave said that it’s not like Nazi Germany where they can come up and ask you for your papers. To the contrary, that’s exactly what this was. Plain clothes cops frequently carry open. They are no better than the average citizen . This was a tempest in a teapot. If ignorance of the law is no excuse for the citizenry, ignorance of the law on the part of law enforcement is no excuse for harrassment.
  3. mike posted on 02/13/2013 04:50 PM
    We need more people walking around carrying guns then it wouldn't be unusual and the cop would stop harrassing law abiding open carry.
  4. mike posted on 02/13/2013 05:24 PM
    If you notice in the vid one of the cops comments about the gentleman opening fire on the passing autos, based on the action of cops in the LAPD RECENT events, shooting two vehicles without positive identification of who was in the vehicle or even if the vehicle was a positive match for the one being looked for. It is a much higher danger of the likely hood of those cops opening fire on passing vehicles.
  5. al posted on 02/13/2013 05:28 PM
    Cops shoot tools all the time. I'm fine with it.
  6. Joel posted on 02/13/2013 05:59 PM
    For some strange reason. I agree it is his right to be an ass. He is clearly not intoxicated but how do the police know this guy isn't disturbed until they ask him. Miranda rights only apply if someone is detained. Keep in mind, suicide by cop is a real scenario that happens every year. Because we rarely go through situations like this it seems weird and the public may have to get used to open carry in MO or change the law. If someone was standing on this kids lawn with a holstered weapon and doesn't make a threat and the police are right there would he want them to question that person before or after the weapon is unholstered. The good news is the misunderstanding did not escalate. He got his rights and the police did their job. Everyone went home alive with no holes. He was just testing his testicular fortitude, good for him but I hope no one follows in his footsteps, I consider him responsible if the next kid does this and gets himself or another person shot. Congratulations kid your a sensation and at least 1% responsible for the next shooting scenario that goes bad. You promoted it, you live with it.
  7. Keith Smith posted on 02/13/2013 06:10 PM
    First I need to say I am a huge fan of the show.But the discussion you had on this today was out of line The guy was an ass but... To compare the privilege of a drivers licence to a Constitutional right was over the line. One of the problems in this country is politicians treating out rights as privileges. The make laws infringing on our Constructional rights all the time. I don't expect the general public to know the differences but I expected a little more from you a retired lawyer.
  8. Cheyenne posted on 02/13/2013 06:26 PM
    We need to stop deliberating over who is 'right' or 'wrong' in this video. They are all 'right'. The White House is 'wrong'. We need to stop arguing with each other.
  9. Cheyenne posted on 02/13/2013 06:26 PM
    We need to stop deliberating over who is 'right' or 'wrong' in this video. They are all 'right'. The White House is 'wrong'. We need to stop arguing with each other.
  10. carolyn cross posted on 02/13/2013 06:34 PM
    if the guy had just said "Im whoever, age__, from whatever county, im a registered c/c citizen, and i have not been involved in a crime, here is my ID" , I think they would have taken his info, and he could be on his way......the police have to answer to public complaints, if they had not and a crime was commited, they would be Guilty of not doing their JOB........i think he was looking for a conflict, trying to make a point! ( btw, i am a republican, gun rights supporter.)
    1. Chris posted on 02/19/2013 07:45 PM
      @carolyn cross Ms. Cross, I'm pretty sure you're incorrect read up on Supreme Court ruling Castle Rock vs Gonzales. It's a clear cut ruling on a very sad situation and there was even a restraining order involved. In a nut shell we are not entitled or have a right for police protection. She sued and lost (police won).
  11. SteadyEddie posted on 02/13/2013 09:35 PM
    This gentleman has not violated any laws by his actions, and really was never disrespectful. The police presence was a bit excessive for the situation IMHO. However, because the gentleman was intentionally being uncooperative he is not helping the cause surrounding the people's rights under the 2nd amendment. A few things to remember after watching this video: (1) just because you have a right to do something doesn't mean you should do it, (2) because of the rash of gun related events across the nation recently, most people, and especially the police, are extremely sensitive to seeing anyone besides law enforcement personnel openly carrying or revealing or brandishing a gun, (3) unless you have commited a crime, there is nothing to be gained by not being fully cooperative with the police, and (4) don't be an idiot and walk around LOOKING for trouble as this gentleman obviously was!!
  12. SteadyEddie posted on 02/13/2013 09:41 PM
    In addition to my previous comment, I would like to add that I think Officer Horn should be reprimanded for his actions. He was very disrespectful to the point of being abusive, and also needs some additional training about Missouri's gun laws.
  13. DA0001 posted on 02/14/2013 04:39 PM
    the police officers in the video were frustrating beyond anything. a few seconds of questioning reveled the answers they needed. once they first to the guy he was not being detained it was technically over. i hope they learn from this because the guy was invoking his rights, and NOT being beligerant, violent, or ignorant.
  14. Al posted on 02/14/2013 05:05 PM
    It is obvious that the officer Horn is very confrontational and aggressive in his tone and posturing despite the fact that the individual is doing nothing wrong or illegal and was not acting in a threatening manner. Those cops acted extremely unprofessional and are an embarrassment to their profession. Officer Horn should be fired immediately and the remaining cops should be suspended immediately without pay and until further training and evaluation. The officers line of questioning was speculative and continually hypothetical. Officer Horn was obviously pissed that he could not exercise his authoritative tendencies for three reasons. 1) Their were witnesses or other officers around. 2) the citizen was video taping him. and 3) The Citizen was justifiably and lawfully armed. I wish this hadn't happened I will take no cops over bad cops any day. Check Horn's high school record he was probably the biggest trouble maker in class and has a huge chip on his shoulder that needs removed.
  15. Chris posted on 02/15/2013 10:26 AM
    This guy is wasting the police officers time to prove a stupid point. You don't see a guy openly carrying a gun wandering the streets everyday. So YES the cops had to check it out. Totally wasting my tax dollars to prove a rediculous point. You gun right people are starting to take things way too far. Grow up and quit bothering people. Ill even leave my email openly on here if you would like to debate further. Just a waste of the officers time! Let them do the job they are supposed to be doing. It's a violent city in St. Louis and they should be dealing with that. Not a moron trying to prove a point!
    My email is tendan@juno.com
  16. Paul Ferrell posted on 02/17/2013 07:53 PM
    This is an old video of a 2nd amendment rights supporter who just wanted to show people how the right to legally carry is being slowly eradicated, You will notice it took 4 cops and 15 minutes of questions and not one voilent move on the part of the 2nd amendment support guys and all they did was try to give him attitude. in western states I have been passed by guys riding motorcycles with colt revolvers straped to thier legs in 2012 and nobody even looks at it. Missouri is becoming nannyized like the left wants. Did U notice that as soon as he started taking their badge and car numbers they let him go because they knew they were wrong to badger him and he was getting evidence on them. Its a shame that we have to teach people thier rights and the constitution like this, but that is people and the education system today.
  17. Paul posted on 02/17/2013 08:02 PM
    I am 46 yrs old white man and I hadnt felt the need to worry about or have a gun until Obama and Now i own an AR 15 (the 2nd most popular selling gun in the counrty only outsold by semi auto pistols) I have joined the NRA and speak and demonstrate my 2nd amendment rights as often as possible , Because of Videos like this. I am sure that hordes of people didnt run screaming to the 911 operator because a man was walking down the street with a holstered 1911 pistol and his father alongside as a witness. Its a sad day when the police are out to question and intimidate a person for lawful and legal actions. Yes he knew that something would probably happen thats why he had a video cam and his dad as a witness. Should there have been something like this happen, Not under the US constitution there should have been no confrontationlike this
  18. paul posted on 02/17/2013 08:14 PM
    The only reason that the leftwing batcrap media covered ,and made fun of the drink of water,,was because Marcos response was True,Fact driven,and not anything that the left could refute. So why not make fun of a sip of water. Thier self annointed, peace prize winning leader, would never make a mistake like that! It is much more important to be cool, and smooth, and have teleprompters on, to help keep your misstruths sorted out , than it is to actually speak the truth, address the problems, and come across as a real person than anything else.
  19. Joe posted on 02/18/2013 12:34 PM
    I find it surprising how often you run in to law enforcement officials who really don't understand the laws very well..... I myself have came across police officers in the State of Illinois who did not know what a FOID (firearm owners identification) card was or what it was for..... He may have been lying, he may have been playing stupid but what he didn't do was display any knowledge of the law pertaining to firearm ownership in the state of Illinois...... If we pay the guy our tax dollars to require him to walk around with a loaded firearm, then shouldn't he at the very least be required to know the law pertaining to them??????
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